I need a bank
 

Being an aware Constitionalist as I am . I avoid banks.

Tho at this time a bank is needed for some transactions ( 2-4 years).

I know banks report ALL transactions into the NWO Mainframe in Maryland .

I have to bear the Mark for a while.

Which Large bank would You choose?

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Washington Mutual cause they do not charge fees..........also cause my mothers (8th??) husband who works for Smith Barney and whom never agrees with ANYTHING I do - especially the metals - even likes them!

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What a stupid response.

I was asking about the banking system in the NEW USA .

I'm down to the Wells or B/A .

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Then you are in trouble - neither is very good..........but then, I am probably too stupid to really have an opinion. *nods*

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Me too. WM one of the top 5 commerical banks in the country. Coast to Coast.

But all banks report. WM has the absolute best CSR's.

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You posted a question, someone gave you a legit response...... just because you don't like the answer is no reason to be a prick. Jeez...what hope is there for the world when you get attacked on GIM for just being neighborly?:bawling:

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Some people don't need a reason to be a prick.:withstupi

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Nuggethunter gets a yellow card.:D :call:

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Why go with a huge corporate bank? I had great luck with Great Basin Bank of NV when I was in Elko.

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Apologize master Ho; Ive been dealing with some real stupid people the last month and brought it home, your a good guy.

Im doin some travel the next 3 years and need a way to cash some checks, access funds from remote places, and want to be under the radar doin it. I dont want to do the atmcard/credit card sheeple modusoperanda.

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Use a bank with a signup bonus.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/mess...keyword1=banks

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Check out pre paid credit cards ... i think Western union offers them !!!

Don't think they are affiliated with banks

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I used to work in a bank server room and would suggest putting your money in 2 or more banks. All kinds of bad things can happen to a server room. Yeah I know they all have off site recovery sites. We ran a few of those disaster recovery drills on the weekend. Believe me they were total disasters.

If the server room and or the tape/optical backup storage facility falls within a quarantined area, the bank will probably cease to exist for awhile.

I would avoid any bank that has their server room in NYC but that's just me.

I worked nights and had time to rome around with my partner keeping an eye on the network. I saw things like one un-armed guard who sometimes slept on duty. Those badge swipe doors....fail open in a power outage. And it gets worse....

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Good choice, if it's sufficient for your purposes. Some of them don't even require SSN.

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Will a rental car agency take them? I don't have any credit cards so I can't rent a car. Not that I find the need often.

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You just insulted one of the most admired and like members of GIM.
:bird:

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Book - BLESS YOU!! Thats very kind of you to say........all I could do was try.........and I am a bit thicker-skinned than that!

Nugget - Apology accepted!

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If you want to avoid banks use travlers cheques, prepaid cc are pretty good but I think you have to give ss.
Also money orders.
Plus are you going to be in large towns/cities/ lots of poor? there always check cashing places. Not sure what they charge to cash the check but you'd avoid all the other stuff.

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I believe they are accepted just like any credit card.

Sukhoi, don't know if it's of any help, but you can get non-government ID from worldgovernment.org. I am curious why you recommend small banks over large ones?

Poor me has no privacy whatsoever due to owning a business. 2 bank accounts and 2 credit cards.
:cryin2:

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Master Ho is correct, when he said that Wells and BA suck.

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Thanks!

But if you can ONLY choose between the two - I'd go with Wells Fargo - I would rather give my money to robbers than BofA...........but then, that last part is redunant! :rolleyes:

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http://www.angloirishbank.at/index.asp

:character

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Here is prepaid credit card that doesn't require SSN - netspend.com

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If it goes thru New york, its tracked. now there saying that they can track other networks(other currencies). there are ways to transfer money around the world fairly discretly. most of those systems come out of the caman islands. Gambling solutions(also where the republicans hide there money). i know of a few that originated in russia. The the feds watch those systems closly now. and Hawalla is ilegal. but its done in eletronic format. incrypted. no messaege no words. just code. nothing really ever moves. just 1010111010




The U.S. government, without the knowledge of many banks and their customers, has engaged for years in a secret effort to track terrorist financing by accessing a vast database of confidential information on transfers of money between banks worldwide.

The program, run by the Treasury Department, is considered a potent weapon in the war on terrorism because of its ability to clandestinely monitor financial transactions and map terrorist webs.

It is part of an arsenal of aggressive measures the government has adopted since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that yield new intelligence, but also circumvent traditional safeguards against abuse and raise concerns about intrusions on privacy.

Under this effort, Treasury routinely acquires information about bank transfers from the world's largest financial communication network, which is run by a consortium of financial institutions called the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication, or SWIFT.

The SWIFT network carries up to 12.7 million messages a day containing instructions on many of the international transfers of money between banks. The messages typically include the names and account numbers of bank customers � from U.S. citizens to major corporations � who are sending or receiving funds.

Through the program, Treasury has built an enormous � and ever-growing � repository of financial records drawn from what is essentially the central nervous system of international banking.

In a major departure from traditional methods of obtaining financial records, the Treasury Department uses a little-known power � administrative subpoenas � to collect data from the SWIFT network, which has operations in the U.S., including a main computer hub in Manassas, Va. The subpoenas are secret and not reviewed by judges or grand juries, as are most criminal subpoenas.

"It's hard to overstate the value of this information," Treasury Secretary John W. Snow said Thursday in a statement he issued after The Times and other media outlets reported the existence of the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program.

SWIFT acknowledged Thursday in response to questions from The Times that it has provided data under subpoena since shortly after Sept. 11, 2001, a striking leap in cooperation from international bankers, who long resisted such law enforcement intrusions into the confidentiality of their communications.

But SWIFT said in a statement that it has worked with U.S. officials to restrict the use of the data to terrorism investigations.

The program is part of the Bush administration's dramatic expansion of intelligence-gathering capabilities, which includes warrantless eavesdropping on the international phone calls of some U.S. residents. Critics complain that these efforts are not subject to independent governmental reviews designed to prevent abuse, and charge that they collide with privacy and consumer protection laws in the United States.

Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, said the SWIFT program raises similar issues. "It boils down to a question of oversight, both internal and external. And in the current circumstances, it is hard to have confidence in the efficacy of their oversight," he said. "Their policy is, 'Trust us,' and that may not be good enough anymore."

A former senior Treasury official expressed concern that the SWIFT program allows access to vast quantities of sensitive data that could be abused without safeguards. The official, who said he did not have independent knowledge of the program, questioned what becomes of the data, some of it presumably related to innocent banking customers.

"How do you separate the wheat from the chaff?" the former official said. "And what do you do with the chaff?"

More than a dozen current and former U.S. officials discussed the program on condition of anonymity, citing its sensitive nature.

The effort runs counter to the expectations of privacy and security that are sacrosanct in the worldwide banking community. SWIFT promotes its services largely by touting the network's security, and most of its customers are unaware that the U.S. government has such extensive access to their private financial information.

U.S. officials, some of whom expressed surprise the program had not previously been revealed by critics, acknowledged it would be controversial in the financial community. "It is certainly not going to sit well in the world marketplace," said a former counterterrorism official. "It could very likely undermine the integrity of SWIFT."

Bush administration officials asked The Times not to publish information about the program, contending that disclosure could damage its effectiveness and that sufficient safeguards are in place to protect the public.

Dean Baquet, editor of The Times, said: "We weighed the government's arguments carefully, but in the end we determined that it was in the public interest to publish information about the extraordinary reach of this program. It is part of the continuing national debate over the aggressive measures employed by the government."

Under the program, Treasury issues a new subpoena once a month, and SWIFT turns over huge amounts of electronic financial data, according to Stuart Levey, the department's undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence. The administrative subpoenas are issued under authority granted in the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act.